One Tree Hill: Farewell to Quentin
Was there a dry eye in the house after last night's tearjerker episode? Certainly not ours -- we were wrecks by the final scene. The aftermath of Q's murder stirred up all kinds of emotions for the One Tree Hill gang -- Jamie encountered death for the first time, Nathan and Lucas broke the news to the basketball team, Haley tried to explain the shocking death to Q's classmates, and Brooke coped with another tragedy on top of everything else she's been dealing with.
What's up with Haley: She's trying to cope with her own grief while breaking the bad news about Q to Jamie and to her class. It's hard to break the news to Jamie -- she wants to be honest, but she doesn't want to crush him.
At first, she tells the class there's no point to any of this, but after thinking about it, she realizes she just doesn't know. She challenges the students to use literature and writing to help them get through this tough time, and it seems to really resonate with them. Haley also has a new student, Sam, who happens to be the same girl who tried to shoplift from Brooke in the premiere. Haley calls her out on her Clothes Over Bros attire.
What's up with Brooke: Peyton comes to Brooke's store and sees Brooke throwing her clothes out on the street. Brooke lashes out at Peyton and demands her house key back -- she wants to feel safe in her house. And why is Peyton at the store, anyway? Peyton tells Brooke the bad news about Quentin, gives her the key, and leaves.
What's up with Nathan: He, too, is dealing with breaking the news of Quentin's death to the team and to Jamie. He's also there for Brooke, telling her that in spite of other bad things, she needs to know that her friends are there for her.
What's up with Lucas: Not much. We didn't see a whole lot of Lucas this episode, but when we did see him, he was bonding with Peyton and consoling the Ravens.
What's up with Peyton: After Brooke apologizes for exploding at Peyton at the store, Peyton shows her that she's saved most of the clothes Brooke threw away. But Brooke's not interested. Peyton tries to tell her that the store and designs are still worth saving.
Meanwhile, Peyton's finishing up with her move into Lucas's place. They have a brief chat about how they're there for each other -- during good times and bad, like this.
What's up with Skills and Deb: Like everyone else, Skills is having a hard time coping. He does a great job talking to the basketball team, telling them that if the grief becomes overwhelming, they can and should come to him, Lucas, or Nathan.
What's up with Jamie: He's sad about Q and trying to process death. He asks for Q's jersey, and Nathan lets him have it. Then he gives the jersey to Q's little brother, who's about his age.
While Jamie is bonding with Q's little brother, Q's mother inspires the others with her resilience and strong faith. Later, while the gang is sitting around talking, Peyton comments about such awful things happening, and Brooke jumps in abruptly with statistics about assaults and rapes and how common they are. Everyone is visibly disturbed, including Jamie, who happens to walk up just then. Rattled, Brooke excuses herself. Haley follows her outside.
Outside, Haley seems to be on to the fact that more happened to Brooke than she says. Brooke just says she has a lot going on and vaguely alludes to Victoria, losing Angie, and "falling down the stairs," and Haley suggests a helpful therapist that she and Nathan used when they were having problems.
What's up with Dan and Nanny Carrie: Carrie continues to taunt Dan and brags about how much Jamie loves her, so Dan asks her questions -- why doesn't she just have a son of her own? but when he nearly escapes and finds the grave of her son, he realizes she's trying to replace him with Jamie. Dan tells her it's not that easy. In the final scenes of the episode, we see Carrie laying flowers at her son's grave, teary-eyed.
Finally, it's time for the funeral. Nathan and Haley want to shield Jamie from it, but Jamie wants to go -- he was Q's friend, and he wants to say goodbye. Plus, he reasons, he's already sad. Haley and Nathan agree to let him go.
The funeral brings several surprises. First, Skills finds comfort in an unlikely place -- from Deb. She comes to his side during Q's funeral and consoles him, leaving Nathan and everyone else more than a little shocked.
Everyone watches as the casket is brought in. Most of the group is stone-faced, including Brooke, who so far hasn't had much of a reaction to the death.
Jamie watches while Q's brother puts on the jersey and stands with the basketball team to say farewell. After almost everyone has left, Jamie approaches the casket with Brooke by his side and drapes it with the Q-size cape he and his mom made. Brooke, deeply affected by this, finally breaks down in tears.
Comments
sams essay was so touching
and when brooke had that moment with jamie. that was the saddest moment
best episode yet
Posted by: p.sawyer | November 4, 2008 6:34 AM
I'm a bit later in watching this episode - but I have to say it was such an emotional ep. I for one liked the Nathan/Brooke scene. Was it a bit surprising that it was Nathan and not someone else, yes - at first. But it was definitely believable. (Sometimes the people who reach out to you when you're having a "crisis" aren't the ones expected. Just like not everyone acts how you would expect them too during or after a "crisis.")
Posted by: Charstin | October 1, 2008 5:51 PM
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Posted by: kelly | September 26, 2008 3:55 PM
I LUV 1 tree hill,avnt missd an episode since it started!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Marie nolan | September 21, 2008 1:52 PM
I agree with all the positive posts about the Brook and Nathan scene. Especially about them being two peas in a pod. Both of them have come so far from who they were in season 1. They have grown away from the self centered people they were, now worried about the others around them. Just because they haven't had a "serious" friendship on the show doesn't mean it isn't there. Brooke adores his son, and was part of the reason for her longing for a family OF HER OWN! It's not that she is encroaching on their marriage. As someone else said, preview before you hit post.
Posted by: Blake | September 21, 2008 12:10 PM
You know, I was actually sort of looking forward to this episode, but the N//B scene made me turn off the episode. It was so uncomfortable, disgusting, and inappropriate. I mean, they're not friends. Furthermore, Nathan will be all grab-ass with Brooke, but won't even hold his wife's hand? So ridiculous. First the Carrie affair last season and now Brooke trying to encroach on NH's marriage and family unit (all because of off-screen influence I'm sure)? So unbelievable.
This season is just so ridiculous, but this episode just pushed it way over the edge of no return.
Finally, Nathan...you're a married man. Stop groping other women and start groping your wife instead. Jeez! Nathan needs to mind his own business. It's sad you can't trust him. He might just cheat on you no matter how much he loves his so-called "true love".
Oh and Brooke needs to stay away from NH/NHJ and go find an available man. Nathan is taken!
Posted by: Haley fan | September 19, 2008 6:47 PM
gosh this episode was just really sad.. broke my heart to watch jamie drape Q's cape on the casket.. then brooke breaks down.. i really liked how Q was with jamie.. and then brooke, even though im not too much of a brooke fan but seeing her this season getting beat up and hiding it from her friends and dealing with her mom, its just sad that she's choosing to go through all of this alone, even though she has all these great people around her..
ahh lovin OTH
Posted by: cecille | September 19, 2008 2:11 AM
I don't see how inappropriate it is to make comments that pertain to supposed 'rumors' that were posted on this very blog months ago. There's been plenty confirmation since then.
Posted by: Jen | September 18, 2008 9:52 PM
I really liked this one. It was sad and yet thought provoking. Even though I never really cared for Q, his death was handled in such a way that it made me care.
I thought that the portrayal of Quentin's mom was excellent. She was a strong, faithful woman who showed great generosity during her time of grief, by thanking those who cultivated greatness in her son. She was well casted too.
I also liked that scene between Nate and Brooke. They have been shown to be friends. She's his son's god mother even, so I don't get the backlash of them having a sweet friendly scene together.
Naley was great and I loved little Jamie as always. I was surprised that JB didn't squeeze out a few tears but that might be to much to expect from a 5 year old actor.
So Carrie has a son who died. That explains the crazy. I hope that they end her reign of terror soon though because she took me out of an otherwise great episode.
Finally, is it wrong that I'm starting to like Skills and Deb together? I liked their scene at the funeral.
Anyway I give this ep a B+.
Posted by: Con | September 18, 2008 12:41 PM
To those of you who think this is an appropriate and commendable arena to make disgusting comments about the cast's personal lives, you really need to hit 'Preview' before you hit 'Post'. I would name names, but most of you only have the guts to go by 'anonymous'. And in general, if you really have so many problems with the show itself, please stop watching, and save us all the trouble of hearing you whinge.
On to the actual episode. Amazing. I genuinely have no words (probably because I was crying the whole time). Mark cops a lot of flack when people don't like what he does, and really doesn't get enough credit when he's earned it. He's definitely earned it this time around. *cheers wildly*
Yes, even for someone who stays away from spoilers, Q's death was predictable from the moment 602 started. But, more importantly, 603 dealt with the aftermath so well. A lot of people said this seemed to get a bigger reaction out of them than Keith's death, and the same happened to me. I think it might be because this was so senseless. I mean, yes, Keith was killed tragically, but that was calculated and done by someone he actually knew. So, when he died, I felt more anger towards Dan than anything (plus I got chills when Chad's voiceover said, 'Is it your name?'). But, with Q, there was no build up of the saga and the animosity like with Keith and Dan. It was so much more sudden in that way.
Add to that Jamie's reactions to this whole situation, and I think we empathise so much with him that it makes us feel sad that he's sad. The scene where he tried to dress himself for the funeral totally did me in.
I don't think there's anything about this episode I didn't like. We were all so well rewarded for all the Naley scenes we complained about not having in 601. I really loved how Jamie and Andre weren't underestimated in any way about how they would react to something like this. A lot of people have commented on how overly dramatic their actions and comments are. But, death is nothing if not emotional, and I don't think anyone has a better grasp of emotion than children.
As for Brooke's attack, I'm not sure I'm on board with the rape theory, but I really do think everyone's catching on. Even Peyton in the last episode, and definitely Nathan and Haley in this one. They may all seem like they're blissfully ignorant, but I really get the sense they're just treading on eggshells because they don't want to drive her away, but also they themselves don't know how to deal with what may have happened to her. And I have been waiting so long for a good Brathan scene. We don't see their friendship much on the show, that's true (at least not since Season 3 or 4), but I've been waiting for a 'we're two peas in a pod' moment between them since Season 1, and I'm so glad we finally got it, because it's true. A lot of what we don't see, we have to take on faith still happened in OTH-world, like when they reference moments that never make it to air. So, I really don't think that the Brathan friendship happened out of the blue, we just only saw a few moments from it.
I really loved when Haley admitted to her class that she had no idea what the point is. Too often, we hope or assume that things will magically make sense when we hit a certain age, or get to a certain point in our lives. Admitting that you don't know is so much more relevant and necessary than pretending it doesn't matter, or that you don't care.
I'm sure there's more I could say about this episode, but I can't think what 'cause there's so much. Can't wait for the podcast to hear your thoughts.
Posted by: pino | September 18, 2008 11:28 AM
i disagree with mainly everyone about the brathan scene..
i honestly thought it was one of the best parts..it was a great moment..who cares if they arent the best of friends..they are friends and she is going through a tough time and he knows alot about it..
but that was such a sad episode but so good!
Posted by: Carly | September 17, 2008 10:54 PM
Nathan and Brooke are friends? Since when?
Oh, that's right, they're friendship was build off-sceen thanks to JS. Not cool.
Well, at least that kept Brooke and Lucas FAR AWAY from each other.
Posted by: Sandy | September 17, 2008 10:10 PM
I pray that one day we will be able to dicuss an episode of One Tree Hill without having it break down into Leyton vs Brucas. I mean christ it so tiring. This episode hardly had any Leyton in it yet people still find a way to bring it up. I wish that once just once we could have a discussion on the Breyton friendship without having to bring up Lucas! I swear you would think that that is all that Brooke and Peyton are about. Brooke gets attacked omg where is Lucas to save her and Peyton is such a bad friend for spending so much time with her fiance and not figuring out what no one else has been able to figure out. I mean come on seriously? That being said (sorry needed to vent) this episdoe was beautiful. That coda made me bawl like a baby what with Andre going in Quentin's spot and Jamie draping the cape over the grave and Brooke breaking down and that song is terrific. God I just felt for all of them and it hurt so bad. I love this show because it can have that effect on me.
Posted by: moodysuburbanteenagelovesong | September 17, 2008 5:33 PM
okay "you get over it" i know my opinion is not fact, and neither is anyone else's. i am not discounting brucas love AT ALL. but the reason i think leyton love is stronger is that it has come between brucas TWICE. it has come between peyton and jake and also between lucas and lindsey. and sure, you may think it's just lust, but there is so much more there that you are too ignorant to see, because it's not brucas. so believe all you want and have all the hope you want, but it will never change what's real in the show. Leyton is real now. sure brucas was once, but now they are just friends. i commend brucas fans for having faith, but there's no need to bash all the other characters and their love.
goodday :]
Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 5:16 PM
It's YOUR opinion that Brooke and Lucas' love wasn't as strong as Pucas' "love." I happen to think that Pucas is all based on lust. Rewatch the show. Brooke & Lucas fell for each other after initial lust. Then, it became very deep. All Pucas talk about now is "look how great your butt looks."
And you may THINK that Mark put Pucas together for good, but it's not over yet. Mark seemingly put Brucas together for good in seasons 2 and 3 and had so many professions to love and being "the only one for me," and then he had Peyton push them apart (again) in the end, out of nowhere, right when it seemed like it would always be Peyton & Jake, Brooke & Lucas... when the ratings were at their highest, when the show was most popular.
So you get over the fact that some people don't agree with you. Get over the fact that your opinion is not fact.
Posted by: You get over it! | September 17, 2008 4:32 PM
I don't agree with everyone who's saying that the N/B scene isn't good. Mark didn't put it because they 'might' be together in real life. He made that scene because Nathan and Brooke had the same characters in a kind of way because they keep things to themselves (Nathan said so himself), and Nathan wanted to help Brooke to open up so they can help her. That's what real friends do, and he was trying to be a good friend.
Posted by: Marilyn | September 17, 2008 2:51 PM
Bethany Joy Galeotti really stole the show. Only real reason for watching, tbh. It could have been a great episode, but it fell flat.
Most WTF moment ever, Nathan and Brooke scene. It was clear as day why it was in there. When will Mark stop letting offset relationships dictate what happens to the storylines?
Posted by: Kellee | September 17, 2008 1:42 PM
Ok So I feel like I needed to do another post because I reevaluated some of my thoughts, and have to add some. But first foremost I want to address what people are saying about the BN scene. It did not happen because James and Sophia are together or b/c they are fucking or any of that, besides the fact if any of that is true or not. It happened because Brooke and Nathan are practically the same person. I have always thought it, that they mirrored each other so well and this was just Mark's was of recognizing it. Nathan knows to a certain extent what Brooke is going through, and he wanted to offer a helping hand. Honestly Haley probably talked to him and said that she was worried about Brooke and he said he would go talk to her. We have to remember that BN have a past, and no I'm talking about the STD past, but they probably grew up together. Nathan said it himself they ran in the same circles, Nathan and Brooke probably knew each other before any of the others. So yeah maybe BN don't have that many scenes together but they are still friends, and I loved what Mark did with that scene. So please just stop saying its because of James and Sophia.
Ok now some other stuff adding on and revising my original post. I said before that I would take that BN scene over any BL scene there could have been (I'm a huge BLer). But do I think that Brooke having a scene with everyone, and 3 out of the 4 other cores reaching out to her, except Lucas, is weird? Of course, especially because of the way things were at the end of last season. However, I really like to believe that there is a reason behind that. What is it exactly, I really don't know. I think last night Mark proved what an amazing writer he is and can be. If you name some of the greatest episodes of this show, they were most likely written by Mark, 316, 322, and 603 being probably 3 of the greatest episodes just overall. So there is a part of me that really thinks, and all of me hopes, that there is a reason for Lucas to not have any interaction with Brooke, just yet. They won't have it for a while. But than I think about s4 and how they were kept apart and there was no reason behind that at all, but I like to think that Mark has learned and grown as a writer. I don't know maybe I believe in the man too much. But after last nights episode, I think he is amazing at what he does; for God's sake he got me to feel sorry for a psychotic nanny.
Now I think that they all (NHJLP) do know that something else is wrong with Brooke, I don't think they think she was attacked or anything but they know something else is up. Even Jamie picked up on it, when he walked into her rattling off the statistics, he gave her a look like "your hiding something." It is very much in Brooke's character to keep this to herself, she doesn't like to burden others with her problems or to be vulnerable around those that she loves. I have to admit that at first I was pissed off by the BH scene, but after thinking about it, I think Haley was just saying to her "You know I'm here but I know you don't want to talk about it with us, but you have to talk about it with someone." And I think even Peyton is trying, I think she isn't being as forward as NH, and I think she should be, but I have to give her credit. And well I said my thoughts on Lucas above.
Commentator, I actual want to comment on what you said about LP. I'm going to try and do this as objectively as possible, not as a BLer but just as a plan fan of the show. Honestly for the majority of this episode I forgot that LP were even together/engaged, until that scene with them in the bedroom, and then I was like "ohh yeah they're together." They have really been pushed to the back burner, like Jackie, Mia and Sarah said in the last podcast, they have become a C plot. Its honestly like they are just there, they don't have a storyline at all. I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing but I have defiantly picked up on it. I know that they both have their own separate storylines coming up, and I don't know if they have a lot together but it doesn't seem like it. I think the wedding will happen but its just going to be a quick thing, and not that big of a deal type thing. I don't think we will get to see the planning of it too much and it will be one episode and than the stories will move on. I just think its funny how there was so much hype surrounding Lucas and his love life, and now its like ok whatever. ALSO something else I noticed was the lack of Lucas in general in this episode. Chad had very minimal lines, he hardly talked at all. I think Lucas is holding a lot in and has a lot of thoughts streaming through his head. Re watching it whenever they did show him he was like very concentrated and looked deep in thought. I just thought was very interesting.
Ok I think that is everything I wanted to cover. I really hope that this amazing writing lasts, these are some great episodes we are getting!
Posted by: Brittney | September 17, 2008 1:32 PM
Thank you LL!!!! I can't deal with everyone hating on Peyton ALL the time, seriously, she deserves a little bit of cred, it's not like she's the only one who doesn't know. Also Leyton is a bit selfish cuz Lucas hasn't said one thing to Brooke and he promised to rescue her.
Bethany Joy Galeotti: I love her and she was good in this episode, but she doesn't deserve all the praise. Brooke really got the emotion down, from anger to sadness she had me glued to the tv when her scenes came up, (she's the reason I have been faithfully watching live instead of DVR). Don't get me wrong, everyone was great, this episode really captured the reality of the type of emotion that would come with such a tragedy in all different types of people. Also I think everyone is starting to get that something is seriously wrong with Brooke. Oh and loved the Nathan/Brooke scene, good job Mark.
Dan/Carrie: I hope Haley kicks her a*@, as bad as Dan may seem to her, she'll worry about him, even if it is only for Jamie. I don't think she wants to explain his death to Jamie.
Posted by: Sandra | September 17, 2008 11:49 AM
OMG! Sophia and James are together? That totally explains why they have a scene!! That makes the scene even more awkward. :S
Nathan and Brooke never talk to each other. And then they have a heart to heart conversation??
Wow, first Chad and now James? That's very disappointing. =/
Posted by: Lola | September 17, 2008 9:45 AM
i wasn't sure they would be able to adress grief as well as they had done for kieth, especially considering the ad hoc decision of Q's death. but WOW was this a powerful episode. i love the mother and her kind words to all especially haley. haley had lots of story lines and i loved naley (p.s it was practically the first time we saw dan be really cruel since season 4 in nathans flashback). i was actually proud of deb, and am loving brooke, so sad when she finally cries and jamie holds her hand! also does haley know more about brooke than we think? shes so intuitive. anyway all round AMAZIN ep, loved nathan's talk with brooke - we haven't had that in a while...
xox - shailee.
Posted by: shailee | September 17, 2008 3:48 AM
Bethany Joy Galeotti rocks this show. She is so talented. She outshines anyone in this cast by a mile. I love that woman.
The lack of Lucas was really really obvious.
So was the B/N scene a product of Sophia and James basically screwing each other. Mark, you don't always need to cater to Sophia's love life or should I saw sex life; it seems more fitting. It was perhaps one of the most random and awkward scenes out there.
Posted by: anonymous | September 16, 2008 11:19 PM
Brucas fans need to get over it. Mark Schwan wanted Lucas to choose Peyton and has planned it since the very beginning. That doesn't mean that everything Brucas went through was a lie! of course they were in love, there's no doubting that, but the love was not strong enough to cover up lucas and peyton's love for eachother.... and for those of you who are saying leyton is acting selfish... i half agree with you. yeah, lucas is, and he said that with peyton he wants to be selfish. but peyton is still showing brooke that she's concerned and just because she moved out doesn't mean she's being selfish. some people just need to calllllllm down for goodness sakes.
Posted by: Taylor D. | September 16, 2008 10:37 PM
Every single person has interacted with Brooke this season, except Lucas. Haley, Peyton, some random homeless girl, Jamie, even Nathan, who she hasn't had a scene with in seasons, except Lucas. He was there for her all of last season, and now suddenly he's not? Mark can erase Brucas from our TV screens, but not our hearts or our memories.
Nathan, once again, someone Brooke didn't interact with at all in the 5th season, realizes somethings wrong, but her own best friend? Nope. the guy who told her he loves her (even if it was just as friends) and was there for her all last season? Nope. this just goes to show how selfish Leyton is when they're together.
BLers need to say strong, because obviouslty Mark has totally abanded us. Congrats on ruining a whole show Mark. Good job.
Posted by: Britt | September 16, 2008 9:38 PM
Do any other LP fans feel how dull LP is nowadays. They don't have anymore flare. I kind of don't want them together anymore because I'd rather have the memory of how good they were than THIS. I really don't care anymore.
How funny was it when Dan offered to HELP CARRIE GET PREGNANT AND HAVE A BOY OF HER OWN! Dan Scott never ceases to amaze me!
Q's mom and brother, Haley, Brooke, and Jamie were pure gold this episode!
Posted by: Commentator | September 16, 2008 8:34 PM
This episode showed a whole other side of everyone. I have never seen Brooke so vulnerable. She is so strong but she finally broke down and I think that Jamie brings that out of people. I do agree with LBJ it was very refreshing to see Jamie interact with someone his age.
Carrie/Dan: I actually sympathized with Carrie until I saw the preview for next week. I love seeing Dan use his evil powers for good.
Peyton is very cluless, I can't believe she can't see past Brooke's excuse, Haley and Nathan, as random as the Nathan going to see her was, it was really good. I think that scene really showed how there for her they really are.
Q's death really brought everyone together. Good job Mark!! Can't wait for next weeks episode.
Posted by: sandra pena | September 16, 2008 6:56 PM
all you guys are saying that peyton is so stupid for not realizing what's wrong with brooke... but hello!! no one else has either! sure, it's obvious to us that something is wrong, but to peyton and the other characters, i think they sense something is wrong and on many counts they have tried to ask her, but they know that the only way they will find out what's really going on is when brooke can make herself tell them. don't get me wrong, i love brooke, but if anyone is being stupid, it's definitely her. she could have been beaten to death and this is a serious matter... she should tell someone else other than deb. but seriously... i can't believe ANY of the characters haven't noticed the strangle marks on her arm!! you can't get those from falling down the stairs, seriously.
and more about the episode... i LOVED the scene with brooke and nathan... we never really get scenes between those two and i loved the connection mark pointed out to us in that scene.
the leyton scene was just enough for this episode... it was perfect because it wasn't over the top.
i was thrilled at how much screen time the scott family got!! haley was amazing, and so was nathan, and of course jamie too!! there's so much to say about them, this post would be too long... and i think the three of them all got to brooke in some way this ep.
ohh and nanny slutty psycho carrie... i don't feel bad for her one bit. sure, it's a sad thing that her son died, but we've already seen how horrible a person she is, and i really don't care for her or her problems at all.... unless they include jamie, then i care enough to have her out of the picture!
overall great episode and i can't wait for next week!
Posted by: taylor D. | September 16, 2008 6:16 PM
Bethany Joy Galeotti rocked the episode! She was amazing and she's so talented. Haley has a great heart.
I loved the NHJ scenes, they are the #1 reason I watch this show.
LP were really good too. Peyton is there for him.
I loved Q's mom and lil brother
Dan/Carrie is too much. I really don't wanna see more scenes with them.
Brooke is all over the place and I really don't understand why she doesn't tell to her friends what's heppening to her.
Oh, and not comments on the Nathan and Brooke scene. Biggest WTF moment of the episode. Really unecessary and out of place. =/
Posted by: Maria | September 16, 2008 5:47 PM
this episode was really trajic but in an awesome way. i thought the acting by everyone was amazing, especially Sophia at the end, that was real emotion. i still don't see how Peyton doesn't see that something is seriously wrong with Brooke. a fall down the stairs doesn't just make a person depressed and scared to be alone in her own house, there's obviously something very wrong with her. i LOVED the Nathan and Brooke scene. it was unexpected and i thought it was great that Nathan came and told Brooke that they're all there for her. they're great together and i thought the scene was great. i don't however see how it was supposed to piss people off like some people apparently think it was supposed to do. there was nothing wrong with that scene. i thought this episode was well done and i enjoyed it
Posted by: kerensa | September 16, 2008 5:04 PM
Everyone acts like Haley knows whats going on with Brooke. Just like Peyton both Haley and Nathan thinks their is something wrong but Brooke stupidly wont say anything. Jesus people just find reason's to hate Peyton. The girl was barely in the episode LOL This episode was so bad. The best actor was the actress who played Q's mom. Joy was just ok. People need to act like they have seen better acting then what I saw last night. Sophia for the love of god please don't cry anymore.
Posted by: LL | September 16, 2008 4:29 PM
Episode was dull and Boring. Only time I saw emotion was with Q's mom and brother (Andre). Everything else in the episode was just BLAH.
Andre/Jamie scenes were cute and it was nice to see Jamie around kids his own age. Mark should have him around them more often then the adults.
Nathan/Brooke scene has to be the most random thing ever. Seriously Mark really wanted to piss all of people off with that one. It was awkward as hell, and just laughable. Sophia/James probably asked for that I bet. lol!
I guess Peyton is not the only one that fell for the "Falling down the Stairs", Haley didn't do much then Peyton did (so lets not act like she accomplished something major here). They all sense something but don't want to push her, and lets not downgrade Peyton because some of you have too much hatred for her. And referring Brooke to a Marriage therapist seriously?? WTF. Nathan and Brooke don't have similar backgrounds who is Mark kidding Dan is nothing like Vicky. Brooke's dad was never around, we never saw into Brooke's background. Nathan had both his parents around. Just Dan was an ass. PLEASE!
Mark was just trying to hard with this Episode.
But I am enjoying Mouth less Episode even thou he's back in 606. BLAH... LP (well don't totally hate them like the rest of BLers, I can enjoy their scenes sometimes) but I like they are in the back burner for now, because w/ their storylines seems to be coming later from spoilers, now it's nice to see these little moments from them, and Lucas assuring Peyton that she is doing something just being there and that they love each other.
I also didn't like the NH less comforting scenes. While the other couples LP, DS were like holding hands or supporting each other close, NH looked like they were just familiar people wouldn't even know they were married
anyways overall I Episode as just boring, and too much trying hard for emotion.
Posted by: LBJ | September 16, 2008 2:25 PM
This is one of the best episodes of One Tree Hill in a long time, I think I can safely say that it is the best one since the season 3 finale. I cried practically the whole time, I think I'm more effected by Q's death than I was by Keith's.
Where to start? All the NHJ stuff was just amazing, they are the greatest family, and seeing them deal with this together was heartbreaking yet comforting at the same time. Haley and her students was really inspiring, since I want to be a teacher myself.
The whole Brooke and Peyton stuff I understood. Brooke is just mad at the world right now, and Peyton was there to lash out on, I think also Peyton has had some of that coming for a few years now. Yeah, I'm not a big supporter of the BP friendship.
Jamie this whole episode killed me. He was so brave, and how he was with Andre was awesome.
I didn't mind the Deb/Skills thing, I thought Deb did the right thing, Skills needed her so she said f*ck it, and went to him. I loved the subtle realization that came over Nathan.
Ok I know Mark is a good writer when he can make me feel sorry for someone as horrible as Carrie. That last scene when she was at her son's grave, I really felt bad. Now by no means does it excuse anything that she has done or is planning to do, but its sad.
But the two scenes that stole the whole show for me was the Brooke and Nathan scene and the Brooke and Jamie scene at the end. First the Brooke and Nathan, I have been waiting for this talk for ever! I'm a HUGE Brucas fan, and I could give two shits that there wasn't a BL scene last night cause the BN scene totally owned. I have always believe that Brooke and Nathan mirror each other, if you go back and look through the whole series, they are always going through the same circumstances. And for Mark to finally bring that to light was amazing. (I also think and NH and BL mirror each other too, but I won't go into that here). I love how Nathan and Haley can see that there is something more going on with Brooke and are reaching out to her. I think in that scene when she is rambling off stats (which was a dead give a way that something is wrong) and Jamie walked in, I think he realized something else was wrong with his Aunt Brooke too. Now if Peyton and Lucas could open up their eyes, maybe someone can get her to tell the truth. I am kinda upset about the lack of BL for the fact that they were the ones who were there for each other through everything last season and its now as though that friendship isn't really there anymore. I guess Lucas has Peyton now, and it just goes to show how self-involved LP are when they are together. The LP scene, yeah whatever, they are just blah to me. Even if I didn't hate them together, they would still be blah to me, there is nothing there at all. But whatever I'll stop that rant.
Ok now the BJ scene at the end, WOW! Jamie draping the cape over the coffin, and then Brooke FINALLY breaking down, and crying for the first time since the attack, and then Jamie grabbing her hand, it was just so amazing. And Sam's voiceover (essay) was great, and I loved the end when its like "They said on a good night it was almost as if he could fly, and now he can" God that was so sad. I'm really going to miss Q. This is the OTH I've been missing, great writing with all the characters interacting and being there for each other. So far these first 3 epis have been great (LP aside, which since the first epi they kinda have been put aside). Each epi has been a little better than the last, and I hope that continues, especially if this is that final season. The show should go out with a bang. We'll just wait and see if it can measure up to season 3, so far it looks like its doing a great job.
can't wait to hear your thoughts on this episode in the podcast. And I know you are all busy but please start on s2 soon, I'm dying here! LOL
Posted by: Brittney | September 16, 2008 12:32 PM
I broke down when Q's little brother stood in for him with the Ravens. It's like he's still there. And then again when Brooke broke down as the cape was put on the coffin and the voiceover said "it was almost as if he could fly... and now he can".
Peyton is so dense. How can everyone see that there's something else going on with Brooke, but she can't? Now that she's with Lucas, they're both blind. Lucas' reaction wasn't even shown. Mark's trying to erase Brucas' existence from our memory I guess. Nice try Markie.
Can't wait to hear your podcast.
Posted by: Soccer7SG | September 16, 2008 12:14 PM
I just loved the BRATHAN scene and the Bramie scene<3
Both really great!
When are you starting to podcast season 2
Posted by: Janni | September 16, 2008 11:51 AM
Great review of the episode!
very detailed and short!
I can not wait till the podcast,
its my favorite part!
and Sarah has to say how evil
Dan was in this episode!
Posted by: JR | September 16, 2008 11:28 AM
was very sad episode, Bethany Joy Galeotti and Sophia Bush are the best actresses in the series, there was a moment where it appeared to them that I began to mourn, one of the saddest episodes of oth, but also one of the best
Posted by: Mariangela | September 16, 2008 11:25 AM